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    Quote as an alias for this type?

    2 posts, latest post: jeff, Jun 10, 2008
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    1. danm
      Jun 10, 2008
      danm says:

      Seems like 'Quote' might be a good alias for the 'Quotation' type

      2. jeff
        Jun 10, 2008
        jeff says:

        Good idea. Consider it done.


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    Fictional Character reciprocity

    2 posts, latest post: jeff, Aug 20, 2007
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    1. alexander
      Aug 8, 2007
      alexander says:

      Why don't we reciprocate fictional character quotes onto fictional character?

      2. jeff
        Aug 20, 2007
        jeff says:

        Pretty much because nobody thought of it before. At any rate, it's done now.


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    legalese

    3 posts, latest post: jfry, Jun 8, 2007
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    1. vtalwar
      Jun 7, 2007
      vtalwar says:

      I suppose this holds for any information really, but especially quotes...Is there something wrong with, say, going to brainyquotes.com and then adding in a few hundred quotes for some people in Freebase using the quotes on their website as a source? I have an idea in mind for a Freebase app that would really benefit from quotes and without really thinking about the legal issues, I wrote up a script to rip quotes and attribute them to someone on Freebase. After testing on the sandbox (Mohandas Gandhi now has 50+ quotations) I realized I should probably ask this before going any further.

      2. vtalwar
        Jun 7, 2007
        vtalwar says:

        On second thought, I did check a few websites' Terms of Use and it would seem that this kind of behaviour is forbidden, but I don't particularly see what's wrong since they don't "own" quotations themselves.

        2. jfry
          Jun 8, 2007
          jfry says:

          Thanks for thinking about these legal issues - it's very important that we make sure restricted data doesn't get into Freebase. Even if a site's license allows it, we really want to be good neighbors and only use data that others have worked hard to accumulate with their explicit permission.

          Given that, one source you might want to look at is http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Main_Page

          We have a good collaborative relationship with Wikipedia, so I believe these are quotes that you can import with no concerns.

          Thanks again for helping to build Freebase's quote repository! I agree, this could become a very exciting aspect of Freebase.


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    Who is the source?

    3 posts, latest post: robert, May 24, 2007
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    1. jfry
      May 23, 2007
      jfry says:

      "Toto, I've got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

      Should we attribute this to Dorothy Gale (character)? Judy Garland (actor)? Noel Langley (film writer)? L Frank Baum (author of the book the film was based on, though the quote may or may not actually be in the novel, I'm not sure)?

      I'm inclined to source it to the person (Judy Garland) who said it, not the one who wrote it. In some cases (e.g. political quotes like "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country") we may only know the speaker, not the writer.

      All that said...whaddaya say?

      2. robert
        May 24, 2007
        robert says:

        If it's performed, I think most people would want to see it attributed to the actor, particularly if it's not derived from another work that made the quotation famous beforehand. For example, I wouldn't attribute a Hamlet quotation to Laurence Olivier.

        2. robert
          May 24, 2007
          robert says:

          I changed my opinion on this.

          I added a 'spoken by fictional character' property that allows you to attribute it to both the original author and the character. In the case of Judy Garland, I would attribute the quotation to the fictional character Dorothy Gale and optionally Noel Langley (unless the line appeared in the original book, then it should be attributed to Baum.)

          We will soon fix the film schema so that fictional characters are topics instead of strings. Once this is done, it will be possible to attribute the quotation to Judy Garland though her quoted fictional characters.


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    Misattributions

    2 posts, latest post: robert, May 24, 2007
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    1. jfry
      May 24, 2007
      jfry says:

      I'd suggest Misattributions as a property on Quotation.

      Many quotes are regularly misattributed to someone. (Einstein and Ben Franklin are two folks who perennially get credit for things others said, and there was that inspiring "Nelson Mandela" quote that made the rounds a few years back, but turned out to be from Marianne Williamson: http://skdesigns.com/internet/articles/quotes/williamson/our_deepest_fear/

      2. robert
        May 24, 2007
        robert says:

        I just added a property to quotations called "incorrectly attributed to" which will hold this. Have fun!


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