Freebase: Discussion about danm

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat: Accidental Flag

2008-10-12T01:54:21.0017Z

Flagged accidentally. Please ignore

Oakley, Fife: Blair tower

2008-10-11T19:27:54.0017Z

What was the purpose of Blair tower Oakley Fife?

Baseball Manager: Addition to schema

2008-10-11T16:33:16.0012Z

yes would like to use this too.

Thanks

Baseball Manager: Addition to schema

2008-10-11T16:33:16.0012Z

yes would like to use this too.

Thanks

TV: Multiple air dates for first/final episodes???

2008-10-11T15:02:48.0017Z

So why is this the case? It's making life difficult when trying to sort search results for TV programs by air dates. Compare to Film, which has only one value for initial release date. Why is TV different?

Black and Tan Terrier: merge topic

2008-10-11T15:01:35.0017Z

Black and Tan Terrier is a subset of the Patterdale or Fell Terrier per wikipedia and

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/patterdaleterrier.htm

Help Center: How to get started

2008-10-11T07:57:43.0012Z

Did you check out the Help page? In the bottom right is a screencast of API & sample apps. The links under "Developing Applications" should also be helpful.

English Toy Spaniel: Duplicate topic, please merge

2008-10-11T06:57:32.0005Z

They are the same dog breed. King Charles Spanielm is also known as the English Toy Spaniel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=1267456

Help Center: How to get started

2008-10-11T05:38:17.0017Z

Hello. I'm a senior Computer Science major and I'd like to use Freebase in my senior project. However, I've never worked with an API like this before and I'm finding it difficult to find examples for basic programs. How do I call the Freebase service in my code? Which languages can I use? What kind of format does the data have to be in before I can upload it, and does uploading it mean it appears on the Metaweb servers as if someone had added something through the website? It doesn't seem well-organized for the novice programmer, and I could really use some help.

American English Coonhound: flag for merge

2008-10-11T04:33:13.0017Z

All sources point to American English Coonhound being same as English Coonhound. Suggest merging to topic name of English Coonhound as FCI links source to English Coonhound.

MLB Rookie of the Year Award: Award or Award Category?

2008-10-11T00:38:13.0017Z

Is this an Award or Award Category? If it's an award category, what's the overall award? How do we model the fact that each year the honor is bestowed upon a player from the National League and a player from the American League, if not as award categories?

Computer Game: Units

2008-10-10T20:27:25.0012Z

This property is specific enough to strategy games that Strategy Game and Strategy Game Unit types are probably in order. If you create these in your own domain for now (on sandbox.freebase.com), then you could add Units as a property of the Strategy Game type. That property would have an expected type of Strategy Game Unit. From there, you could augment both types with any other properties you want, such as a property that specifies whether the game is turn-based or real-time. Hope this helps, and if you need help getting started, I can create the types for you in my domain.

Bug / Feature Request: Urgent Require - Fetching Content - http://www.freebase.com/api/trans/raw is not working.

2008-10-10T17:14:08.0012Z

Hi Hemang.

A recent data update seems to have caused the problem. We are working on resolving that as soon as possible. In the meanwhile if you are running this specific query for wikipedia articles only (i.e. not in a generic library or something of that sort), you can get the same content by using the /api/tran/blurb service with a very hign number for maxlength like so:

http://www.freebase.com/api/trans/blurb/%239202a8c04000641f8000000000acd66c?maxlength=3000

This will only work for wikipedia based topics. The reason being that we do not maintain the complete wikipedia article on our backend. However we do allow /api/trans/raw requests for wikipedia based topics, it simply returns the same content as the blurbs without truncating the content.

HTH

Bug / Feature Request: Urgent Require - Fetching Content - http://www.freebase.com/api/trans/raw is not working.

2008-10-10T16:56:36.0012Z

Thanks for bringing this up. The data format for blurbs changed, and a piece of the API was overlooked. It should be fixed soon; stay tuned for more information.

Bug / Feature Request: Deleting First Address

2008-10-10T15:40:34.0018Z

Sometimes a company in Freebase has two cities in the HQ address area when it really doesn't. If the second city is correct, and you delete the first address line, and then try to add information into the remaining line, the autofill fields won't work. You can type things in there, but the auto-suggest won't "open" and you can't link the field to an actual topic. You have to close out and then go back in.

In case that is confusing :) here's hopefully something that will help:

Company XYZ

Company/Headquarters "field"

Line 1 = Paris

Line 2 = London

Go in and delete Paris. Then try to fill in the other address fields for the London line. the fields that link to other topics won't work.

Computer Game: Units

2008-10-10T14:20:30.0018Z

Units available in strategy games...

Bug / Feature Request: Urgent Require - Fetching Content - http://www.freebase.com/api/trans/raw is not working.

2008-10-10T11:21:13.0018Z

Hi,

Please any one help me on following issue.

It is unable to fetch content using following url:

Request:- http://www.freebase.com/api/trans/raw/%239202a8c04000641f8000000000acd66c

it give response like as shown below:

Response:-

{
  "status":"404 Not Found",
  "code":"/api/status/error/blobclient",
  "messages":[
    {
      "info":{
        "hostports":"blob03.p01.sjc1.metaweb.com:8120 blob01.p01.sjc1.metaweb.com:8120 blob02.p01.sjc1.metaweb.com:8120"
      },
      "message":"Could not find or replicate blob: static:mw-render/en/6c/9202a8c04000641f8000000000acd66c",
      "code":"/api/status/error/not_found"
    }
  ],
  "transaction_id":"cache;cache01.p01.sjc1:8101;2008-10-10T11:18:03Z;0011"
}

Thanks in advance...

Freebase: data mob start and end

2008-10-08T22:57:25.0012Z

Good idea, thanks! I can add those properties.

Freebase: data mob start and end

2008-10-08T20:02:06.0005Z

Would it be useful to have a data mob start/end date? It would be cool to plot data mobs like MDOs:

http://instanceplots.vtalwar.user.dev.freebaseapps.com/index

Football Competition: Sports League Championship properties

2008-10-07T21:44:20.0012Z

I did get confused with the two types, and you helped with your explation, so do I get this right (to use baseball):

* The World Series is a "recurring event"

* The 2008 World Series is an "event"

If that's the case, then football is littered with these so could do with some clarification.

I guess at the same time, does the "2008 MLB Season" then is a "sports league season", with "2008 World Series" as it's "championship"?

But then for the 2008 World Series (http://www.freebase.com/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f8000000006b8b47a), I don't get why it's a "sports league championship event", and an "event". Why doesn't one include the other?

Football League: Event Properties

2008-10-07T21:36:38.0012Z

A football league in the soccer sense, is an event as such, as a:

* it recurs every year

* has a start date

* has "things" invovled (teams rather than people, which change each year - unlike some American sports I guess)

Perhaps event isn't the best type to include, perhaps football league just needs beefed out with the relevant properties instead? I can think and make proper suggestions for discussion...

Soccer: Archive data

2008-10-07T21:31:57.0012Z

I've not heard back, but it's only been a day... seems rude to kick somebody just for that... :P

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T21:28:51.0012Z

hi skud,

I'll get to your comments in the football domain but want to thank you for your comments (both here and in the relevant types).

I guess I wasn't really angling for an admin role (although would love to be paid to do this! :P) but mainly that I've been using Freebase for 1 1/2 years (only really adding data for the last week though in anger!) and have been active in my space (Scottish football) for 5 years and a computer programmer for 14 years.

I do want to prove myself as competent, and have started a "scottish football" domain and will start to define types in there that I think work for football, as you say.

At the same time, I don't want to annoy people by posting a load of messages to domains that didn't appear to being looked after, but you've answered that above.

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T21:28:51.0012Z

hi skud,

I'll get to your comments in the football domain but want to thank you for your comments (both here and in the relevant types).

I do want to prove myself as competent, and have started a "scottish football" domain and will start to define types in there that I think work for football, as you say.

At the same time, I don't want to annoy people by posting a load of messages to domains that didn't appear to being looked after, but you've answered that above.

Football Organization: Pointless?

2008-10-07T21:23:24.0012Z

I guess to me on first look, any type that has no properties (but forces you to include another type on the item which fulfils the same purpose) is pointless, but I also see why that may be a bit harsh on it too.

Football organisation's tend to be silly (if I'm being honest), as they tend not to look after all the competitions in a given country (from Scotland for example):

* The Scottish FA, only look after the internation team, and the cup competition

* The Scottish Football League, look after the lower leagues, and the league cup

* The Scottish Premier League, only look after the top division

Also, UEFA has "members" (the countries assocation), as does FIFA, whereas the "sports association" doesn't have these properties (only teams).

Football is such a specific sport that it deserves it's own type, but feel that is should extend the given type (sports association in this case), rather than require both to be added...

Still not sure of the best way of explaining this in words like this, if that makes sense!

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T21:11:51.0012Z

Hi degsy. I already replied to a bunch of your comments in the football domain but I wanted to clarify a few things here.

First up, danm and aseem were the admins on the football domain but they don't have much time to work on it. So cheunger and I have become admins there and we can now make changes to the schema.

Generally we don't appoint admins who don't have schema modelling experience on Freebase as it's easy to break things horribly if you're not careful. So if you'd like to become an admin in this domain the way to move towards that would be to work on some modeling in your own private user domain(s), and get the hang of how our schema editor works, and so on.

However, we could make you an "Expert" in the football domain, which allows you to make changes to documentation in the domain and recognises your knowledge in the area.

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T21:11:51.0012Z

Hi degsy. I already replied to a bunch of your comments in the football domain but I wanted to clarify a few things here.

First up, danm and aseem were the admins on the football domain but they don't have much time to work on it. So cheunger and I have become admins there and we can now make changes to the schema.

However, we could make you an "Expert" in the football domain, which allows you to make changes to documentation in the domain and recognises your knowledge in the area.

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T20:49:28.0012Z

Sounds good, I just need in... no word from the admin people yet...

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T20:49:28.0012Z

Sounds good, I just need in... no word from the admin people yet...

People: Titled Persons

2008-10-07T20:06:41.0012Z

It's interesting, the way in which it's modeled is very similar for at least some things.Like we both need gender-equivalence, and titles themselves. The content is also seemingly different, but I'm not entirely sure how to explain why they're not the same thing. :) I wonder if there is a merging point in them though..

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T18:46:36.0012Z

Currently, we don't have a generalized sports schema that other sports schemas can inherit from. We can start simple and grow into that if necessary. My suggestion would be to keep the football (soccer) stuff localized to the soccer domain.

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-07T18:46:36.0012Z

Soccer: Archive data

2008-10-07T18:42:44.0012Z

Has someone got back to you about this? We have a guy internally who's able to load data sets like this. I think cheunger was putting you in touch with him, yes? Please let me know if you need me to give this a kick ;)

Football League: Event Properties

2008-10-07T18:41:42.0012Z

Should which include the properties? Football league? I'm not sure that makes sense. A football league isn't an event, is it?

Football Organization: Pointless?

2008-10-07T18:40:44.0000Z

Looks fairly pointless, yes. It's what we call a "bucket" -- something where the only useful semantics gained from typing something as this are that a thing "is-a" whatever.

At the very least this type should include "Sports Association".

Can we think of any properties that a football organization should have that are special to it? For instance, do they relate to teams, or to competitions? Can you say that teams are members of a football organization, or that a competition is run by them?

Football Competition: Sports League Championship properties

2008-10-07T18:38:14.0012Z

OK, some thoughts...

We could simply include the sports league championship type, which would cause all competitions to be co-typed as sports league championships, but are all competitions championships? I don't know the semantics here.

Another thing to think about wrt included types... are such competitions events, recurring events, or anything like that? I note that some are already co-typed as such. It seems reasonable that any given competition would have a start and end date and whatnot.

Or... another thought... should this type be used for "World Cup" or for "2008 World Cup"? Seems to me we've got the event/recurring event pattern going on here. Perhaps we should have two types?

Football Organization: Pointless?

2008-10-07T07:00:26.0018Z

Is this a pointless type given that "Sports Association" takes care of most of the required fields for this, and the fact that this doesn't have any properties?

Football Competition: Sports League Championship properties

2008-10-06T21:24:35.0018Z

Can we add the properties similar to the sports league championship type (http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/sports/sports_championship)?

Football competition seems rather empty...

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T21:08:44.0012Z

Thanks for the information.

I'm also a computer programmer (broad term I know!), so I'm interested in this from many angles one of which is how to get my data in here (for others) and then to use it from my own site to keep it fresh (from others).

I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but already finding duplicate types listed for some items, and trying not to become too frustrated, and to help out like you said.

Past team rosters are one thing, but also past competitions seem to be neglected (in my interested area) which I'm trying to think about how to correct.

One question, is it best to suggest specific types (football/soccer) ones from the existing types (which seem to be great for NBA, MLB, etc) or to suggest changes to the existing "sports" types?

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T21:08:44.0012Z

Thanks for the information.

I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but already finding duplicate types listed for some items, and trying not to become too frustrated, and to help out like you said.

Past team rosters are one thing, but also past competitions seem to be neglected (in my interested area) which I'm trying to think about how to correct.

One question, is it best to suggest specific types (football/soccer) ones from the existing types (which seem to be great for NBA, MLB, etc) or to suggest changes to the existing "sports" types?

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T20:56:58.0012Z

You're right - a good way to start contributing is by exactly what you've been doing. Start with a post to get the /soccer admins (and hopefully others) involved. There are some current schema issues that are outstanding, one of which happens to be how to represent past team rosters. Posting suggestions for changes will at least get the ball rolling. Additionally, you can broadcast harder schema related problems to a wider audience by joining the data-modeling list (here)

As for the suggestions from 2007, I don't know what the blockage is/was. It could be some combination of dropping the ball, lost interest, no follow-up, no time and/or no resolution. I'll have to research further what these suggestions were and queue them up, if appropriate. However, I hope this won't stop you from posting your suggestions; community input is invaluable, even if it's just commenting/critiquing other people's suggestion.

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T20:56:58.0012Z

Football League: Event Properties

2008-10-06T20:52:44.0018Z

Should this include the properties from /time/event (http://www.freebase.com/type/schema/time/event...

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T18:04:44.0012Z

I guess I have lots of recommendations for changes, but my problem was that some suggestions from 2007 hadn't been actioned, so didn't want to waste my time (or others) if nothing was going to come of them.

I have spent 5 years gathering data for my site, and have a good idea of what data/properties I have, so will continue to make suggestions where applicable, on the relevant type pages - I assume that's the correct way?

Would love to help out "officially" in some capacity, especially where football is concerned.

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T18:04:44.0012Z

Would love to help out "officially" in some capacity, especially where football is concerned.

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T17:54:48.0012Z

Hi degsy,

I've forwarded your message onto the proper data loading folk, and hopefully they should be posting back to you shortly. It would be great to load some more football teams into freebase. I see yo've already started looking at the schemas in the /soccer domain; do you have other recommendations for changes?

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T17:54:48.0012Z

Hi degsy,

Soccer: Archive data

2008-10-06T16:49:12.0017Z

Is there a place on here for talking about adding archive data to the football (soccer) section?

I'd love to do a large data load with the data I have, but finding it frustrating to find a starting point... if one of the admins for this section was interested in getting this section going, I could help out.

danm: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T16:47:07.0017Z

Are there any large updates planned for football (soccer) that I can help with?

I run a football archive site at http://scottishfootballarchive.co.uk and would love for the data to be under freebase and then re-usable for the rest of the web.

Not sure where to start, so looking for pointers...

Soccer: Football (soccer)

2008-10-06T16:47:07.0017Z

Are there any large updates planned for football (soccer) that I can help with?

I run a football archive site at http://scottishfootballarchive.co.uk and would love for the data to be under freebase and then re-usable for the rest of the web.

Not sure where to start, so looking for pointers...

People: Titled Persons

2008-10-06T16:13:16.0012Z

I have a "Royalty and Nobility" domain you might like to look at, too. I haven't done much in there yet, but I bet there's some crossover between it and your Titled People.

People: Titled Persons

2008-10-04T23:54:55.0017Z

I've created an Honorary Title domain, which has types for titles, and orders, and people who give and have those titles. I'm hoping that it will help to combat the fact that titles are often put down as employers or awards, so our way of describing them isn't consistent.