micahsaul

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-07-24T14:54:09.0000Z

Wikipedia tends to classify by the broadest institution, so there are a lot of actors associated with Yale University instead of the drama school. I think it's fine that we start with the lower-precision classification and as data becomes available, replace it with the more specific.

Apple Inc.: What will be the next bullet of Apple Inc.

2008-07-24T14:32:34.0012Z

this is the interesting questions, I also wondering what would be the next bullet of Apple

Apple Inc.: What will be the next bullet of Apple Inc.

2008-07-24T07:38:50.0017Z

Apple have bring 3G iphone to the market, any idea about what's the next bullet of Apple

The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco: Apparently never said by Twain

2008-07-21T22:19:29.0005Z

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.asp

I'm Not Scared: Album has nothing to do with the novel

2008-07-12T00:00:56.0005Z

The album by Eighth Wonder should not be here; it is not even the soundtrack to the movie based on this novel.

Distilled Spirits: Spirit brands

2008-07-11T14:36:48.0012Z

In attempting to migrate instances of the now-obsolete Whisky type to distilled and blended spirits, I am running into a frequent problem. Some of the so-called whiskies were actually distilleries or blenders, and those are easily handled. However, many of them, particularly bourbons, but also blended Scotches, are actually imprints or brands; they are not single spirits, but neither are they distillers, bottlers, or blenders. How important are brands to represent? What model is appropriate?

Grant's: Split 4 products

2008-07-11T13:29:23.0012Z

There are 4 blended Scotches released under the Grant’s blend; this Wikipedia page is about all of them. A discrete topic for each should be created.

Eagle Rare: Split 10 and 17 y.o. editions

2008-07-11T00:47:03.0012Z

There are two whiskeys sold as Eagle Rare, and each should have its own topic.

The Black Arrow: Films are not books

2008-07-10T19:48:48.0005Z

The 1911 film should be split from the book.

Know You Rider: Multiple Artists

2008-07-09T18:25:11.0001Z

You will want to create a discrete musical track for each artist's rendition of the song, similar to http://www.freebase.com/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000029cacc6 (Jimi Hendrix - Star Spangled Banner).

Know You Rider: Multiple Artists

2008-07-09T02:33:02.0021Z

Is there a way to enter multiple artists? It's a song that's labeled "traditional" but has been recorded by the Grateful Dead, Byrds, Joan Baez, Hot Tuna and others.

Kontious Filosofy: Kontious filosofy

2008-07-08T16:26:54.0000Z

he's a okay

Kontious Filosofy: Kontious filosofy

2008-07-08T16:26:37.0005Z

is he a good lyricist

Michael Collins: Blend and single malt

2008-07-06T19:00:58.0012Z

We need a discrete topic for the single malt product.

Composition: Date Created

2008-06-25T17:11:53.0012Z

Good suggestions. I’ve made these changes over on sandbox for comment; I’ll recreate them here if folks like them.

Composition: Date Created

2008-06-25T11:09:10.0015Z

Could we have a Date Created (type Date/Time) property?

Also a First Played (type Date/Time) property would be good. Possibly extend this to a compound type including a first played (type Location) property?

Quotation: Quote as an alias for this type?

2008-06-10T18:31:41.0007Z

Good idea. Consider it done.

Quotation: Quote as an alias for this type?

2008-06-10T01:47:25.0012Z

Seems like 'Quote' might be a good alias for the 'Quotation' type

Composition: Traditional compositions

2008-05-28T03:55:57.0000Z

That’s a good question, Joe. A particular recording of a traditional tune is likely a recording of an arrangement of the tune, true. But one might still want to discuss a folk song in its own right, and there is a difference between the lack of a composer assertion and the positive assertion that the tune is traditional.

I don’t know what the right answer is. Should there be a Boolean property for traditional compositions? Should we do what every other database does and create a pseudo-composer named Traditional?

Do you want to start a discussion on the Music Modeling Interest Group or possibly the data modeling mailing list?

Guitarist: Some properties

2008-05-28T00:11:55.0000Z

Brandon,

Thanks for the suggestions. I am not sure how best to model guitarists, but that’s why we have the Freebase community approach.

Go ahead and prototype a version of Guitarist in your own domain with the properties you think it needs. Then post here or in the Music Modeling Interest Group and get other people to comment on it. If people seem to like it, we can update Guitarist with your properties.

Musical Artist: Adding a founders property

2008-05-27T19:37:51.0007Z

Not a bad idea.

It’s a kind of denormalization, though; when there are dates, you can tell who was a member of the group at its earliest dates.

When we run into a denormalization issue, what usually makes the difference is the use cases. Is there something particular you want to do with founders? Is it just something that would be cool to see? How hard is it to find founders without it?

You are right that this belongs on Musical Group rather than Musical Artist, though. The dates you mention are the start and end of musical careers; it applies to individuals as well as to groups (though, unlike groups, the individuals exist before and sometimes after their careers).

Musical Group: Ex-Members Property

2008-05-27T17:12:40.0000Z

Band membership has a beginning and end date; former members should have an end date, although it's true that in many cases Freebase won't have that data. But, in my opinion, splitting the membership roster into separate properties for current and former members would cause a bigger problem for cases where we don't know a musician's status -- it forces us to arbitrarily make an assertion (current or former) when we lack the knowledge to make that assertion. At least with the current model, you can say that someone was or is in a band when you don't know the current line-up.

I think the current model will be a little clearer if we get the ability to store the notion of "current" or "present" in date fields.

Composition: Traditional compositions

2008-05-26T15:41:21.0012Z

Is there a preferred way to indicate that a piece is generally credited as "traditional" (often with an arranger credit)? It's clear that imported data sometimes perpetuates "Trad" as a composer.

I suppose using "Arrangement" and leaving "Composer" blank is the best alternative?

Musical Group: Ex-Members Property

2008-05-24T23:16:37.0012Z

Wouldn't it make since to have an Ex-Members property?

Guitarist: Some properties

2008-05-24T22:40:30.0012Z

I think we need an Amplifiers Property. We may also need to split Electric Guitars and Acoustic guitars since pro guitarists have so many guitars.

There should also be a discussion about how to handle custom guitars, but that's up to the Guitars type.

Musical Artist: Adding a founders property

2008-05-23T19:13:19.0024Z

There should be an additional property for the founders as distinguished from members, thought maybe this would fit better in the music group type since the notion of a founder for an individual artist would usually be an odd fit. On the other hand, dates of founding and dissolution are in the music artist type, so maybe founder should be in proximity to those.

Music: Musical performance role?

2008-05-22T18:43:15.0013Z

Musical instrument includes Musical Performance Role, and drum is both. The reason for the co-typing is so that an artist in a band can have the roles of lead vocals and bass guitar, without having to have separate properties for each.

Music: Musical performance role?

2008-05-22T17:42:12.0005Z

I just noticed that "drum" is typed "Musical performance role" which seems to be a very confusing name. Shouldn't the type be "musical instrument"?

Composition: Opus Numbers

2008-05-20T23:49:15.0000Z

Welcome!

Unfortunately—as you probably know from using MusicBrainz and other databases—classical music is not generally well-modeled. We have it on our to-do list, but just plain haven’t gotten to it yet.

You can help us out, though! First, check out and join the Music Modeling Interest Group; start a conversation or three there.

Second, you can model the features you feel are missing in your own personal domain. Then post about them on the interest group or on the data modeling mailing list, and once there’s agreement, we can easily promote them to the music domain.

Thanks!

Composition: Opus Numbers

2008-05-20T23:38:30.0005Z

Hi,

I've just discovered Freebase (through musicbrainz) and have quite a lot of classical music data which I would like to add.

What about Opus Numbers and catalogue numbers - I can't find anywhere to put them!

A table of which composers have which types of catalogue numbers would be a good entry too ( I have some data on this, too).

Music: Musician type?

2008-05-16T02:54:39.0011Z

I changed my mind… “Instruments Played” and “Vocal Range” are now properties of Musical Artist, reciprocated by the Musical instrument and Musical vocal types. I have migrated the few instances you had in Musician to these types. Thanks for the very useful suggestion.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-03-27T22:13:29.0017Z

Or, I suppose you could argue that everyone should be linked to the University itself, but I think that's less useful in the long run (if I'm interested in directors who went to the Yale School of Drama, I'd rather query that than to have to filter Yale Univ. grads by degree [MFA] and field of study [directing, drama, acting, etc.]).

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-03-27T22:10:34.0022Z

It does complicate queries, it's true. Ideally everyone would be linked to the school they graduated from. That said, it's useful to be able to say that someone graduated from Yale University, even if you don't know which school they attended.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-03-27T21:26:57.0012Z

This is the case, although it complicates queries. Also, many alumni are linked to the university even though they attended Yale College.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-02-14T23:16:00.0007Z

As near as I can tell, Yale College is the undergraduate college of Yale University, and should therefore be made a constituent school of Yale, along with Yale Law School, Yale School of Drama, etc., which I've now done.

Yale University: yale college and yale university?

2008-02-14T21:56:01.0012Z

shouldn't these two be merged?

-chris

Music: Musician type?

2007-08-29T02:42:38.0000Z

This is interesting, Cedric, and it seems useful. The instrument played property is definitely more helpful here than on Musical Artist. What other properties did you have in mind?

Music: Musician type?

2007-08-25T01:38:28.0012Z

For mw's consideration:

I've created a type in my personal domain called "Musician" which includes types "Person" and "Musical Artist." This type requires that its topics be individual persons, but we can also provide greater detail about their personal identity. Individuals can also be tied to the instruments they play (a property I've also added). Let me know what you think.