Influence Node

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-18T22:34:09.0040Z

Yes I agree we should use all the properties.

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-18T08:33:13.0013Z

Alex: yes, probably, though I think I want to talk to Mike Love about it first. I'm crossposting over into the Influence Node domain.

If we use it we should probably take all the properties from Influence Node including peers, etc.

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-18T01:37:48.0012Z

use inShouldn't the chef type the influence node type to specify the chef's influence?

Joseph Stalin: Stalin as a military commander

2008-08-14T18:14:12.0000Z

We have types for military conflicts and commanders -- if you have information about his military career, feel free to add it to the military domain!

Joseph Stalin: Stalin as a military commander

2008-08-14T16:59:33.0017Z

The guy also commanded troops during the Russian civil war, as well as during the Russian-Polish war in early 20's.

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-13T21:38:06.0012Z

alexbl: signature dish is a great idea!

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-13T21:25:50.0012Z

And don't forget Wikipedia's Chef infobox as a potential data source.

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-13T21:08:15.0005Z

Cool! Would be very nice to do an import of celebrity chefs in general. Might also be interesting to have a signature dish property..

Influence Node: Chefs in general

2008-08-12T22:44:52.0005Z

I think the "Chef" type is a good general one that should be worked on. I'm going to try building it out a little, then see if we can move it into a commons domain. I might create some associated types while I'm at it, like a CVT for a chef's association with restaurants over time. Kake and I discussed this on IM one time.

Stephen Colbert: Stephen Colbert for President

2008-07-25T19:06:10.0000Z

flippity floo!

Kirrily Robert: You used to work for realestate.com.au?

2008-06-12T00:54:31.0007Z

I know a bunch of people at REA but what did you want to contact them for? Mostly I knew people who worked in the web development/technology side of things. Drop me an email if you like -- skud@infotrope.net is my personal email addy.

Influence Node: Influences, positive and negative

2008-06-11T20:44:55.0022Z

So in the dataset I first uploaded, I included negative influence as just influence - partly to simplify the project and keep the barrier to entry low enough that it would actually get contributions. There are lots of degrees of influence, but I would err on the side of simplicity so it's easy for people to get going.

I think it's also fair to say David Hume influences Kant, Plato influences Aristotle, or Hegel influences Karl Marx, although the latter in the pair is in many ways rebelling against the core arguments of the former.

Kirrily Robert: You used to work for realestate.com.au?

2008-06-07T19:48:44.0005Z

Neat stuff!

As a work related thing; I don't suppose you'd know any names worth contacting there? My workplace frequently sends out valuers to properties, and getting information ahead of time would be useful to them.

Daniel Libeskind: Merge two instances of Daniel Libeskind

2008-05-27T07:39:12.0012Z

Same person. Merge please.

Ian Collins: influences

2008-05-15T18:21:48.0012Z

no offense with removing the Influence links. they just have to be people, not things. Robert Cook and others are working on a favorite things app...

Bernd and Hilla Becher: Should be two people...

2008-05-02T06:26:37.0012Z

and merged with Bernd and Hilla Becher as well. Although I get the impression that they might have acted like one visual artist... should the visual artist be re-typed as an organization, rather than split in two?

Bernd and Hilla Becher: Shouldn't a couple be two people?

2008-05-02T06:22:10.0005Z

Seems like this should be split into Bernd Becher and Hilla Becher, and the Erasmus award should be to both of them as individuals.
Also, the visual artist Bernd and Hilla Becher needs to be both split in two and merged with this topic.

Thomas Hardy: Thomas Hardy didn't write any films

2008-04-30T01:52:03.0000Z

Yeah, sorry. Unfortunately, because the data displayed on his page is coming from five films, the only way to do it via UI is to click on the link for each film, remove Thomas Hardy from the Film Writer property on that page, and add him back as a Film Story Contributor. Once that's corrected, the data will display correctly on Thomas Hardy's page.

Thomas Hardy: Thomas Hardy didn't write any films

2008-04-30T01:46:23.0005Z

I think that he ought to be a Film Story Contributor, not a Film Writer. I wish there were an easy way to change the data type.

Ludwig van Beethoven: Composer vs. Musical Artist for classical composers

2008-04-26T01:20:38.0007Z

Welcome to my nightmare.

Every music database in the world indexes classical recordings by composer, basically because the physical record had to go in one place in the store. There is no reason for us to follow this model—except that our main data source, MusicBrainz, still uses it.

We will be changing this at some point, but I couldn’t tell you when. Do you have a specific use case or application that this is blocking? That would affect our priority.

Ludwig van Beethoven: Composer vs. Musical Artist for classical composers

2008-04-25T23:21:38.0012Z

It seems odd to have entries for albums and tracks recorded for a classical composer. Shouldn't the musical artist in this case be the conductor, symphony or other performers (analogous to songs and albums recorded by someone like the Rolling Stones)?

Trey Parker: Use of the alias field

2008-04-25T21:58:47.0007Z

This shouldn’t happen again. Thanks for noticing it.

Trey Parker: Use of the alias field

2008-04-25T06:01:48.0007Z

When MusicBrainz tells that X is also known as Y, we don’t necessarily know that Y is a fictional character played by X, as opposed to just a stage name.

It’s definitely a bug that the bot is re-adding aliases previously deleted, though. Sorry about that, and thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Trey Parker: Use of the alias field

2008-04-25T01:27:43.0000Z

It looks like your MusicBrainz bot is still adding improper aliases. Will this be fixed?

Trey Parker: Use of the alias field

2008-04-16T20:48:53.0007Z

You are correct - names of the characters that an actor portrays should not be aliases of that person. This is an artifact of some psuedonym refactoring that was done on musical tracks. In general, if you see another topic like this, feel free to delete the pseudonyms.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Trey Parker: Use of the alias field

2008-04-16T18:56:40.0005Z

Should aliases really be used to include roles played by an actor? It seems very inappropriate to me.

Influence Node: Influences, positive and negative

2008-02-04T14:15:56.0012Z

This is a completely fascinating and powerful collaborative learning tool, and Mike deserves huge credit for getting the ball rolling.

I'd like to think aloud a bit about 'negative' influences, and see what anyone else thinks on this subject. It seems to me that when we refer to influences in a philosophical context, for example, it's generally assumed that we're talking about positive influences, ie.one or more aspects of a known party-of-the-first point of view that end up being utilised or subsumed or in some other fashion became incorporated into the expressed thought of the party-of-the-second. Correct?

However, negative influences can be equally important, in that critical examination and subsequent rejection on stated or unstated grounds very often plays a vital role in determining the subsequent direction of an influencee's thinking and conclusions. These negative influences can be well known, buried in footnotes, or, sometimes, inferred with some degree of confidence.

So, my question is, do negative influences legitimately belong in Mikes influence type, as conceived by him and as utilized by this type's rapid expansion in use? Or does 'influence' require two explicit types, positive and negative? Any thoughts?

Stephen Colbert: Stephen Colbert for President

2007-11-14T23:29:21.0007Z

I agree. Sadly it appears that he's stuck in South Carolina.

Stephen Colbert: Stephen Colbert for President

2007-11-14T19:56:07.0005Z

I think it would be great if Stephen Colbert became a serious contender in the presidential race to shake things up a bit. The famous French comedian made a run for the French presidency in 1980 was at one point had 16% of votes in the polls.

Influence Node: influence vs. refers to (it would make sense to reverse the link direction)

2007-08-23T10:03:39.0005Z

The concepts of 'school' or 'tradition' own a decisive advantage over the concept of influence, as they do not imply a direction of the link.
Infuence implies that a dead person, say Leonardo da Vinci, actively acts on a living person, say Andy Warhol.
In reality the relation points to the past in all cases. Andy Warhol 'refers to' Leonardo da Vinci instead of being activly 'influenced' by the dead artist.
This distinction between 'influence' and different forms of 'refering to' as well as it's implications have been discussed very strikingly by Michael Baxandall in his 'Excursion against Influence', which can be found in his 1985 book 'Patterns of Intention' pp. 58-61.
Functionally the difference between 'influencing' and 'refering to' is equivalent to the difference between 'bibliometric coupling' and 'co-citation' in the field of Bibliometrics. Whereas 'influence' implies a static actor in the past, modern day 'reference' alters our image of the past actor.
A classic example would be 9/11: By refering to films-scenes where high-rise buildings are burning or destroyed, the terrorists changed our perception of films like 'The Fight Club' or 'Die Hard' forever. By 'refering to' the films they changed our perception of the past. On the other hand it would not make sense to sue one of the directors for 'influencing' the terrorists.

Influence Node: School/Tradition from Wikipedia

2007-08-22T16:57:36.0005Z

I tried do adopt the school/tradition field from Wikipedia by creating my own type. I hope this might be usefull and will be used in the genealogy!