Fictional Universe

Deceased Fictional Character: Difference between characters dead during plot, and characters already dead.

2008-06-29T14:11:22.0005Z

Is there a way to express characters who are already dead before the plot starts, and characters who die during the plot?

We also need a way to express in which work the character dies - i.e. they might be alive in one book, but killed in the next.

Also, there might some complications, such as death during a flashback (outside of the main story plot, and so technically dead before the plot begins) and zombies.

Jigsaw Killer: Jigsaw's status as a killer

2008-03-09T06:12:36.0012Z

According to Jigsaw's view of the world, he hasn't killed anybody. He has put them into situations where they have to test themselves to see if they have the will to live.

Legally however, putting someone in a trap that will rip open your chest unless you are able to perform some act is considered murder in just about any court of law you'll find.

For this reason I have decided to attribute Jigsaw's victims to him.

Batman: Renamed from "Batman"

2007-12-28T18:44:27.0000Z

I agree with Faye that the superhero articles should not be renamed to their alter-egos' names. If the intent of the "primary identity" type is that it should be used for the non-super identity (e.g. Bruce Wayne), then it should be applied to the article for Bruce Wayne, and the "alternate identity" type be applied to the Batman topic. If no Bruce Wayne topic exists, it should be created as a primary identity.

Batman: Renamed from "Batman"

2007-12-22T02:01:53.0012Z

I really think this article is more appropriately named "Batman" than the renamed "Bruce Wayne". The article is more concerned with Batman as a character than Bruce Wayne. I see that the article for "Superman" has been renamed to "Clark Kent" as well. Only the Spider-man article retains its original name instead of being renamed to "Peter Parker".

I'm really curious: Why the name change? The thing is, more people think of them as the superhero identies than their more "normal" alter egos. For example, would you talk about the latest Batman movie or the latest Bruce Wayne movie? Are you a fan of the Superman comics or the Clark Kent comics? Is your little brother/cousin/son dressing up as Spider-man or Peter Park for Holloween? It also affects search because the way I see it, more people would search for "superman" than "clark kent", and if there's only one article for Batman/Bruce Wayne, shouldn't we keep the name "Batman"?

Speaking of only having one topics for these heroes with hidden identities, maybe it's time to consider splitting up the superheroes from their everyday alter egos as separate topics, especially if we want to use types like Primary Identity to link them to topics for alternate identities.