skud

Beginner's Guide: Contributing to Freebase: shokof,yekishim

2008-07-18T07:29:49.0005Z

after rading and reasearching much about this thinker, i hae come to conclusin it is important to write in regards to Daryush Shokof and his thoughts of Yekishim .this artist has beenaround and in the "hiding" for many yearsbut always great for a grand surprise. he shocked the world with hs film "sven Servants" and continued some of the most original thought provoking cocepts in all directions from arts, to writing and cinema to convince me hat this is not to be aken lightly. shokof,s Yekishim is a sign of a great religious tendencies to be taken seriously, and would in my opinion be considered as one of the greates concept man has come across to for creatng a much different and positive world for centuries to come.

Yekishim is milions of years ahead of all other beliefs since life existed on earth, and t will coin this man,s name n the history of humanity as a grand thinker with some of the most originally unique thoughts aimed for te better life of people on earth, and "afterwards".

skud: A little bit of insight

2008-07-18T00:23:28.0007Z

Thanks Brian, I've emailed you!

skud: A little bit of insight

2008-07-17T19:00:22.0012Z

Just wanted to drop you a line as I've joined the Religion domain, and I am interested in the work that you are doing at Freebase. I run an online community called Ecunet.org that serves mostly the Christian faith, and I think we might explore how we could work with this environment.

If you get a chance, drop me a line - brian.lang@ecunet.org

Thanks!

skud: 'Convention' type

2008-07-14T01:00:56.0012Z

Can we please add "Convention" as a property of Convention Organizer?

Conventions: properties...

2008-07-10T02:03:06.0005Z

Can we please add "Convention" as a property of convention organizer?

skud: congrats on the new job!

2008-07-10T00:27:31.0012Z

Wow, I feel privileged to be featured. I've added a pic to my profile.

skud: IM

2008-07-04T16:20:17.0012Z

Hi,

Tried to reply to your on Twitter but the DM feature seems to be down.

I'm on XMPP/Google Talk on frankie@frankieroberto.com

Frankie

Least Developed Countries: How to associate?

2008-07-03T20:35:16.0000Z

Great, thanks. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something :)

Least Developed Countries: How to associate?

2008-07-03T20:02:15.0000Z

You can't really associate them directly, but go to the relevant topic, type it as a "hospital" or "building" or whatever, and usually there's a field for "address". Put as much of the address detail as you can in there -- the country, at minimum -- and that will help. You could also co-type as "location" and use the contains/contained-by relationship, if you liked.

(Note that if you give a nice, fully-qualified address, our geobot will probably come along and do the location co-typing for you, and figure out the latitude and longitude for the geolocation, too.)

Least Developed Countries: How to associate?

2008-07-03T18:47:37.0037Z

How do you associate buildings/structures, hospitals, etc with a country? You don't add that type to the country's entry, right? Otherwise it is as if the country itself is a hospital, structure, etc.

So do you go to those individual types and add them in there? But then how can you look at Nepal and see all the various associations? Or is that a custom search or something?

Thanks.

Tall ships: Tall Ship school

2008-07-02T18:45:23.0012Z

Which neighbour? Obviously I need to know ALL ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

Tall ships: Tall Ship school

2008-07-02T02:05:01.0044Z

One of our neighbors was raising money for "Tall ship school" for San Francisco girls. Anybody know about this?

Name source: Extending Names for Localization

2008-07-01T21:49:11.0015Z

If you are talking about the specific names involved in Namesake and Name source, take a look at my comment on the Namesake type.
But if you are talking about internationalized names of topics in general, we already have that, though the client doesn’t expose it. Take a look at http://blog.freebase.com/2007/12/04/internationalization-in-freebase/ for more info.

Name source: Extending Names for Categorization

2008-07-01T12:16:15.0005Z

I recommend adding some sort of Categorization. I think it has something to link to other domains or types. For example, Human Names, Planet Names, Hardware Tool Names, Animal Names, ... etc espicially if you extended Names for Localization. Therefore, Names would have all Names in all Languages and other types would link to Names to get their Names. For example, Countries, instead of having country name in Countries type we might have Country Name Number (or link) and have Countries in multilanguages.

Name source: Extending Names for Localization

2008-07-01T12:11:23.0005Z

I recommend adding (Human Language) link for each record to make Names Localized. For example, my Name is TEQANI in english and تقني in Arabic, and so on ;o)

Namesake: Language dependencies

2008-06-30T22:48:09.0012Z

I am having a lot of fun using this type. However, it has some of the same problems that arise in discussions about importing WordNet or other words per se. The naming is not always independent of language. Consider Korea, which is named by Europeans after the ruling dynasty at the time of contact. However, that is not the name used by the folks who live there, so it is incorrect to say that the place that we call Korea is named after the Goryeo dynasty, but there isn’t a good way to express the idea that the English word “Korea” comes from the Korean word “Goryeo.”

Australian local government area: remove administrative division

2008-06-26T07:14:01.0012Z

Ok, I see, AD is supposed to be vague. What was tripping me up was the ISO and FIPS attributes do have a clearly defined domain. So maybe they should be kicked out into a new type (principal country subdivision?) that US State, Australian State etc. include?

Australian local government area: remove administrative division

2008-06-25T19:29:21.0012Z

Administrative division is specifically designed to be somewhat vague, and to be used for everything that falls between the most local government (city/town or equivalent) and the country. I wouldn't call the ISO and FIPs codes "main attributes" -- they're basically just foreign keys. Administrative Division is almost just a "bucket" -- a way to assert that something is an administrative division of a country, and generally bigger than a town. (Some cities are of course both city/towns and administrative divisions.)

Creating separate types for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.-level administrative divisions would probably be even less applicable, since many countries don't have nice clear hierarchies, and in some places the supposed hierarchy is subverted (New York City is the classic example -- its five boroughs are also counties). Using a single co-type for all these things also allows for simpler modeling as well-- if there are only three major types for country divisions, you need fewer properties to link to them and have fewer places where a property might conceivably go.

Australian local government area: remove administrative division

2008-06-25T18:52:38.0012Z

From what I can tell, cities in the US are both naming and administrative. Australian LGAs are mostly administrative divisions, and city/town naming in Australia is separate from them; it comes from the postal system. In large metropolitan areas naming goes state/metro area/suburb (which apparently means 'neighborhood' in USian, and are postal divisions). Suburbs can be split between multiple LGAs, although most are within one.

However the Administrative Division type doesn't fit because its main attributes are ISO 3166-2 and FIPS 10-4 Region Code, which are only defined for Australian States. For the same reason I'd also recommend removing Administrative Division from US County, which is probably the closest analogue to Aus LGA. If required, there's probably room for a new type that is between state and city/town which both of them could include.

skud: Namesake/source Domain

2008-06-24T13:36:47.0012Z

Alan,

There's nothing inherently permanent about user types not marked as draft; the owner/admin may delete them if s/he wishes. However, this tends not to happen when those types are actually being used.

If/when we promote a type to the commons, the data moves along with it. The "Influence" domain is one example of this. At Freebase HQ there is a team called Data Architecture who are responsible for domain promotions, and they make sure this happens smoothly.

skud: Namesake/source Domain

2008-06-24T05:04:59.0012Z

In general how permanent are your user-types that are not marked as draft? And should a user-type be adopted as a official type in the future, the data that has been entered is safe I hope?

skud: Namesake/source Domain

2008-06-21T23:21:34.0012Z

Yes ;) Robert was telling me I should do it as a DM and I was saying "But I only started the motorcycle one yesterday!" so I thought instead I'd just post about a handful of interesting new domains and hope that some people would get into it. Glad you like it :)

skud: Namesake/source Domain

2008-06-21T15:44:18.0012Z

Thanks for creating the new namesource and namesake types! I've been thinking about doing these for a while. You know that you've just created another data mob, right?

Australian local government area: remove administrative division

2008-06-16T18:27:45.0000Z

Thanks for your comment -- figuring out where different governmental divisions in different countries fit can be a bit of a challenge. LGAs are a bit confusing (at least for this non-Australian) -- some of them seem to essentially correspond to what I would think of as a city (e.g. City of Clarence) but others seem to encompass several smaller towns and open space (e.g. Kingborough Council). Or, in other words, it looked to me like they were a level of government between state or territory and city or town. Which is why I gave the type an included type of administrative division.

Event: How to associate an event with a location?

2008-06-16T14:27:04.0000Z

You could co-type event with a new type (e.g., spatially_explicit_event, event_(spatial)) that includes a location property. Personally, I think the event type should retain its location property. As long as it accepts multiple values and is considered an approximation, then why not?

I think the bigger problem with event having a location property is that administrative boundaries are considered static and synonomous with location for many location topics in Freebase. For example, Germany has an area property but no associated date field. There is a date field for "Date founded" that has a value of May 23, 1949. If this date defines the location than it is inappropriate to use this Germany topic as a value to describe the location of any event that occurred during WWII or before.

The ontology you linked has an interesting Product property that is separate from a sub-event. It could possibly be modeled as a causal_event type that links one or more events to one or more other events that were at least in part dependent on the first event(s) occurring (similar to the Influence_node type in the Influence domain).

Event: How to associate an event with a location?

2008-06-16T11:58:09.0007Z

I also wonder this, I added my own type for this: http://freebase.com/view/user/sandos/spatial/positioned_event

It is interesting to note this: http://motools.sourceforge.net/event/event.html

Currentl freebase follows that pretty well, but not exactly.

Event: Recurring events?

2008-06-16T11:56:43.0007Z

I did not add the recurrency for my "Yearly event" but the particular events I was thinking about also do not happen exactly once a year, so that fit well enough.

Australian local government area: remove administrative division

2008-06-14T18:27:17.0005Z

to quote its description, "This type is for administrative divisions of countries of any level below the country itself and above city or town." ie LGAs don't fit. I've manually removed it from a few topics until I thought to look at the schema.

Event: How to associate an event with a location?

2008-04-13T06:02:34.0012Z

So now that events no longer have locations, how should I associate an historic event with a place?

skud: congrats on the new job!

2008-04-01T14:16:29.0005Z

Good to see an old compatriot doing well!

I'm going to be in SF for a few months late this year. It would be good to catch up for a beverage to see what you've been up to...

Event: Recurring events?

2007-10-04T17:42:16.0005Z

First of all, good work here. :)

I was wondering how recurring events might be captured here. Many sporting events and award shows occur on a regular (such as annual) basis. Take the Academy Awards ceremony for example, should there be an overall "Academy Awards Ceremony" event (of the type Event), which would then include each annual event (such as the 78th Academy Awards)? Ideally, I would prefer to capture the frequency of recurring events as well.