Computer games

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-27T18:54:30.0007Z

I think that a list of songs makes more sense, primarily because I can think of a couple of instances where songs in the game aren't on a released soundtrack. That way, the true list of songs can be kept as well as a link to a released album, if need be.

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-27T04:04:34.0007Z

That makes a lot of sense. There's tons of games that aren't "musical games" in the same sense as Guitar Hero or DDR. I guess the real question is whether the property should be a link to a soundtrack or a list of songs like the Musical Game type has.

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-25T20:50:46.0007Z

I figured there was one for the Musical Game type. I guess I'm thinking it should be part of the main Computer Game type to accommodate the games that have licensed songs but aren't music games. Of course it could also be extended to original songs in more traditional games, as well (Final Fantasy series, Super Smash Bros soundtracks, etc.)

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-25T18:35:16.0000Z

Take a look at the "musical game" type linked in the previous post. I think that has what you're looking for.

Computer games: 'Soundtrack' Property

2008-03-25T18:24:43.0012Z

Would it be possible to add a Soundtrack property to provide a link to songs found in a computer game? This would be very useful for rhythm games (Dance Dance Revolution, Rock Band, etc.) and games with licensed music (Madden, Tony Hawk, etc.)

Computer games: Using Computer Game Version

2008-03-22T16:48:03.0000Z

The region property looks good. I was wondering if it was possibly to expand the Computer Game Version type to the same level of the main Computer Game type. The Computer Game type works for general information about a game but for a collector, there are so many nuances between version that it would make sense for each version to maybe have its own page. This would also be nice for Collector's/Limited Edition of games, where the extras can be detailed in that version's page. Would that be possible?

Computer Game: My Son's suggestion

2008-01-28T18:50:05.0000Z

There is a property called "Online reviews" that can link to external reviews. Also, there has been a movement in the data-modeling community to model external reviews as part of a new type called "Consumer product". Perhaps you've seen the thread? If not, you can join the email discussion here. Feedback on the modeling of the consumer product type is welcome!

Computer Game: My Son's suggestion

2008-01-27T00:09:44.0005Z

Can we add a "Rating" and "Rating Source" as new list-type property. My son's always want to know what a game was rated by game informer, gamespot, etc.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-18T22:53:07.0000Z

I was think more along the lines the since different regions have different rating systems, the versions would carry the rating field, since each version will be region based as well, but I can see how it would make more since to attach all ratings to the main field.

One instance, though, where I can think of attaching two different ratings to different versions of the game is, of course, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. There are basically two versions of the game out on consoles; one with "Hot Coffee" and one without. Those early versions would have to be marked as AO for the ESRB rating and M for the later versions.

Computer games: Musical game

2007-11-14T17:06:13.0007Z

Oh, nice. I like that.. though I wonder if "input method" is unique to Musical Game or it might make sense at the video game level? I'll add it to Musical Game now and we can always move it later...

Computer games: Musical game

2007-11-14T04:52:26.0000Z

Looks good to me! Another interesting property is the kind of "input method" (as wpedia calls it) used to interact with the game (such as guitar, bongos, dance pad, etc).

Computer games: Musical game

2007-11-13T16:55:05.0005Z

Hey, I have a type in my domain, Musical Game that is for games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, etc.. I've got a 45 games co-typed and have songs entered on a bunch of them. Anyone interested in including it in this domain?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-10T23:56:51.0000Z

Is it frequent that the same game is rated different on different platforms? I don't know any such game off the top of my head, but I bet they exist or you wouldn't suggest that ratings be attached to versions instead of the main game. If it's an anomaly maybe ratings can be attached to version ALSO instead of only to the versions.

Here is the revived set of types on sandbox, accessible through this game:
http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f800000000008f68d

Computer Game: Setting

2007-11-10T23:14:24.0007Z

Actually, would "Work of fiction" (which probably all games are) even apply to something non-fictional?

Computer Game: Setting

2007-11-10T23:00:43.0007Z

Oops, I actually misunderstood what you said (rather, I read what I expected you to say). That's even better, thanks!

Computer Game: Setting

2007-11-10T22:54:10.0007Z

Cool, thanks. I'd completely forgotten about my own suggestion and now that I'm an admin, I can actually do this :)

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-06T09:11:02.0007Z

Sorry for the delay in recreating the types! I will try to get to doing that tomorrow. I have yet to investigate the Computer Game Version type in detail but it seems like one would have to make a new instance of this type for every {Region,Platform} combination there is for a given game?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-11-05T18:00:34.0000Z

When the rating related types get recreated, perhaps they should be attached to versions of a game rather than the main game article itself, especially now that there's a region attached to each version.

Computer game engine: engine descends from XYZ

2007-11-03T14:39:48.0012Z

This is something I totally forgot about when creating my type:
Could it be possible to have something like "Descends from" (a native English speaker will probably find a better description for this) for engines? That way, one could tell that Qfusion and id Tech 3 were based on id Tech 2, id Tech 2 was based on Quake engine, etc..

Computer Game: Computer Game Engine

2007-11-03T13:32:38.0000Z

Thank you! :)

Computer Game: Computer Game Engine

2007-11-02T20:44:29.0007Z

Splendid idea. I just added the property and mirrored your two types.

Computer Game: Computer Game Engine

2007-11-02T14:19:09.0012Z

It could be interesting to add "Engine Used" property to note which game engine a specific game is based on. This would also allow to see e. g. all games which use id Tech 4 or so.

Computer Game: Setting

2007-10-25T23:19:17.0007Z

You can get a setting property by adding the type "work of fiction" to the video game in question.

Computer games: Using Computer Game Version

2007-10-16T17:47:16.0007Z

Duncan -- sorry for the delay. I added a "Regions" property (that expects the type "Computer Game Region") in the Versions type.

Computer Game Platform: Platform iterations

2007-10-11T23:49:19.0005Z

II think that there is a need for an additional type, perhaps "Computer Game Platform Iteration", in order to correctly model for example the Nintendo DS or the Gameboy Advance series of portable consoles.

Under the current schema, I do not see a way to specify that e.g. the DS standard (or "phat" in homebrew scene parlance) and the DS Lite are both computer game platforms yet play the same games.

Really I suppose the platform should be "Nintendo DS" with the DS standard and DS lite being "iterations" (probably there is a better term) of it. This way, games can simply be marked as for "Nintendo DS" and show up under both the DS and DS Lite pages.

There are also three compatible versions of the Game Boy Advance. Things get more complicated with software compatibility here because some versions of the GBA can play older, original Game Boy games, just as the DS can play GBA games. I'm not quite sure how best to model all this.

Computer games: Using Computer Game Version

2007-10-10T15:06:46.0012Z

I would love to use date from Freebase to write a program to manage my video game collection. To that end I would want to use the Computer Game Version type for it's platform-specific approach. One thing I'd like added, though is a sort of "region" field for Computer Game Version, as there can be major differences between the same game in different territories. Also, if the rating types are used. You could attach them to a game version instead of having multiple ratings attached to the main article. What do you think?

Computer Game Version: Publisher/developer fields

2007-09-12T08:14:48.0005Z

If the publisher and/or developer of a computer game version is the same as that of the "main game" (ie the /cvg/computer_videogame entry linked to a /cvg/game_version), should we

1) duplicatethepublisher/developer from the /cvg/computer_videogame entry, and then risk these not being updated if the /cvg/computer_videogame entry is updated?
2) leave them blank, forcing applications using this data to "default" the values themselves?

Cheers!

Computer Game: Designer/developer distinction for 8-bit games

2007-09-08T16:09:33.0007Z

I think it would make sense to fill in both fields with the developer/designers:

http://www.freebase.com/view/%239202a8c04000641f800000000434a885
http://www.freebase.com/view/%239202a8c04000641f8000000000945e45

Computer Game: Designer/developer distinction for 8-bit games

2007-09-07T13:58:03.0005Z

Games from the 8-bit era were often written by just one or two people, with no real distinction between "designer" and "developer". How should we people suggest we use the "developer" and "designer" fields in this case?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-29T08:16:50.0007Z

These have probably been wiped away by the refresh. Because of the present lack of a community interested in the cvg domain (at least I think there is...if I'm wrong, please butt in!), I'll hold off recreating until there's some more activity.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-25T02:00:48.0007Z

Alright, I've come up with something on sandbox, modeled after the film ratings types:

Rating: http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/schema/user/vtalwar/default_domain/video_game_rating
Rating system: http://sandbox.freebase.com/view/schema/user/vtalwar/default_domain/content_rating_system

Some examples:

ESRB
ESRB's Teen rating

Please let me know what you gamers think :) This is the first time I've done any real modeling...

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-24T15:19:27.0005Z

Good point, a rating should be linked to a board not a country - Im just not thinking complex enough. (-:

Computer games: Computer Mod

2007-08-23T16:10:50.0007Z

I think so, mainly because
- they are an additional part of a game
- cannot usually be used without the original game (as opposed to derivatives which only need the engine, e.g. Blue Shift for HL2)
- but are not core components of the original game.

Computer games: Computer Mod

2007-08-23T14:47:47.0028Z

Should a type be created for computer game mods, or should they be tagged as computer games of their own?

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-23T07:36:04.0000Z

I just now noticed the Film rating-related types we've got. I guess the answer is to create parallel types for Video Game ratings.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-23T07:02:43.0000Z

This is a really good idea and is something we should readily be able to get right out of Wikipedia. I disagree that countries be tied to these ratings in any way; rather, ratings boards (there seems to only be a handful of them) are responsible for the ratings given, but I'm not sure what domain a Ratings Board type would fit in, since in some cases they rate more than just video games. Ideally all this would be modeled in a way that shows off the controversies often linked to game content and the resulting ratings.

As for how the ratings themselves would be modeled, I think a ratings type is definitely necessary. One question is whether these should innately be tied to a particular ratings board (via some property) or whether that board should be supplied through a cvt. I'm leaning towards the former, so I'll try some of this out on sandbox :)

Computer Game Version: Name field?

2007-08-11T22:28:12.0000Z

That's pretty impressive. I just added a new property "version-specific name" to the computer game version. Technically, this isn't the best way to do it -- I should be just using the name field, but this will at least allow you to enter the data.

Computer Game: Release date

2007-08-10T01:35:05.0000Z

The suggest of "vtawar" is good idea because release date is very different.

Exemple:
Mario striker charge
US: July 30, 2007
Japan: December 31, 2007
Europe: May 25, 2007

And different platform, release date is not all time the same date.

Exemple ;
Resident evil 4
Wii verison :
US: June 19, 2007
Japan: May 31, 2007
Europe: August 29, 2007
Play station:
US: October 25, 2005
Japan: December 31, 2005

Computer Game: Release date

2007-08-09T01:45:37.0000Z

indeed, I was just this second wondering the same thing.

Maybe even just a release year is better than having nothing at all.

Computer Game Version: Name field?

2007-08-08T15:26:19.0000Z

Some ones I could find quickly (all ZX Spectrum-related, as that's where my expertise lies...):

* "Ajax" became "Typhoon"
* "Arabian" became "Tales of the Arabian Nights"
* "Bagman" became "Gilligan's Gold"
* "Butasan" became "Pyscho Pigs U.X.B."
* "Contra" became "Gryzor"
* "Gladiator" became "Great Gurianos"
* "Pipe Dream" became "Pipe Mania"
* "Rush'n Attack" became "Green Beret"

I'm sure there's many more!

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-08-06T06:28:45.0001Z

Probably a property that can contain Country & Code. In fact a Computer Game Rating type wouldn't be a bad idea since different countries have different rating systems - not to mention the fact that each country asigns codes individually.

Computer games: ESRB Rating

2007-07-22T20:17:51.0004Z

I'd suggest an ESRB Rating property for games, probably as an enumerated list.

Computer Game Version: Name field?

2007-07-19T01:01:02.0007Z

Hi Pak -- The initial best practice (for now) is what you did -- to put it in the "also known as" field. If you can point to more examples, we could add in a "version specific name" property for the version.

Computer Game Version: Name field?

2007-06-29T12:10:28.0012Z

What would people's opinion on adding a "name" field to /cvg/game_version be? The use I see for this is where one game was released under different names on different platforms. The example I'm thinking of here is that "Gradius" was released as "Nemesis" on the ZX Spectrum. I've added "Nemesis" to the "Also known as" field of the /cvg/computer_videogame entry for "Gradius", but a more explicit tie-in to the Spectrum release might be good. I'm sure many other examples of this exist as well.

Computer Game: Release date

2007-06-28T19:06:49.0007Z

For musical albums, we have a convention of just using the first release date, but there are other Web sites for tracking the utter minutiæ of records. This is really a question, then, of how much the user community wants to see and maintain a list of national releases or whether there’s more interest in seeing when a game first hit the streets anywhere. (And in the Internet age, do the national boundaries really matter all that much?)

Computer games: moderator

2007-06-27T23:34:49.0012Z

can i become one? :-)

Computer Game: Setting

2007-06-27T20:14:23.0012Z

How about a setting property :) ? This would be important for a lot of RPG's and Action-adventure games.

Computer Game: Expansions

2007-06-27T19:22:26.0007Z

I've created the type and typed a couple of expansions (BG2:Throne of Bhaal and BG:Tales of the Sword Coast). It'd be nice if there was a link back to the expansion from the original game (still can't figure out why I can't suggest a property)

Computer Game: Expansions

2007-06-27T19:00:12.0012Z

There should be an "Expansions" property on and a "Computer Game Expansion" type for expansions packs, which aren't usually standalone games.

I seem to be unable to suggest properties for the type.

Computer Game: Release date

2007-06-27T17:56:32.0005Z

is different for different countries/continents.